Pioneer Elite PRO-710

[azfrankp]

I'm trying to complete my Home Media distribution and having difficulty connecting to my Pioneer Elite Pro-710. I think I have a resolution problem but can't find the equivalent native resolution of this set which is a 1080i display. Since they discontinued it, Pioneer is no help.

I'm connecting up several Niveus Media boxes to TV's and computers around my home. Being analog I do not have the HDMI connection required by Niveus. Niveus is simply a small footprint Vista computer configured to work in a network environment with a DVI/HDMI output.

On a recommendation, I purchased an HD Fury 2 which is supposed to convert an HDMI signal to analog component or RGB. I actually get 3 to 4 pictures displayed on the screen when the resolution is set to 1260 X 720 on the Niveus.

Any other resolution causes the picture to loose horizontal vertical sync. What I would like to try next before returning the Fury 2 is preset the Niveus to the exact native resolution of the pro-710.

Does anyone know what it is or other things to try?

Thanks from AZ where we cook our eggs on the sidewalk.

[MrBoylan]

I'm trying to complete my Home Media distribution and having difficulty connecting to my Pioneer Elite Pro-710. I think I have a resolution problem but can't find the equivalent native resolution of this set which is a 1080i display. Since they discontinued it, Pioneer is no help.

I'm connecting up several Niveus Media boxes to TV's and computers around my home. Being analog I do not have the HDMI connection required by Niveus. Niveus is simply a small footprint Vista computer configured to work in a network environment with a DVI/HDMI output.

On a recommendation, I purchased an HD Fury 2 which is supposed to convert an HDMI signal to analog component or RGB. I actually get 3 to 4 pictures displayed on the screen when the resolution is set to 1260 X 720 on the Niveus.

Any other resolution causes the picture to loose horizontal vertical sync. What I would like to try next before returning the Fury 2 is preset the Niveus to the exact native resolution of the pro-710.

Does anyone know what it is or other things to try?

Thanks from AZ where we cook our eggs on the sidewalk.

You probably already know this, but other readers might not. The Pioneer Elite Pro-710 HD is an analog (CRT) RPTV set with red green and blue tubes inside projecting the image via a mirror onto its screen. As such it does not have the same kind of standard resolution that a flat panel or digital projector would have (e.g., 1920x1080, 1280x720, 1366x768, 1024x768, etc.). The exact number of scan lines on this interlaced set were not published and would be tricky to measure precisely, even with decent test equipment. Also, even if you knew the precise number of scan lines, it's unlikely that the TV will accept an input in that specific resolution nor is it likely that you could adjust the Niveus to the exact resolution of the set.

The set accepts 1080i/60, 720p/60, 480i/60 and 480p/60 input signals but I believe only the RGB/VGA input accepts 1080i and 720p. I believe that is the "video 3" input but I'm not 100% sure as I don't have the manual nor a picture of the jack pack. The set then internally scales these inputs to its native scanning resolution. Assuming you are trying the 1080i/60 output format from the Niveus (not 1080p/60 or 1080p/24) and going from the HD Fury box into the Video 3 RGB input, then I'm not sure what other setting you could try in order to get this to work.

Your best bet would probably be to find a forum with some 710 owners on it. I know there are 710 owners over on avsforum, and I think some are successfully using the HD Fury box. Try posting your question there and maybe you will have more luck getting specific advice about your components.

Here's a search URL for 710-HD on avsforum:

AVS Forum - Search Results for pro-710 hd

Good luck!

-Chris

[azfrankp]

Assuming you are trying the 1080i/60 output format from the Niveus (not 1080p/60 or 1080p/24) and going from the HD Fury box into the Video 3 RGB input, then I'm not sure what other setting you could try in order to get this to work.


-Chris

Thanks Chris,

You've cleared up a lot of information for me. I believe my Niveus is currently outputing a 720P signal but is capable of 1080i as well. I'm working with them to find the Intel TV setup wizard that would address this. I'll keep the forum posted in case there are others with this relic. I hate to replace it because one, at 65", it still has an awsome HD picture and two, it cost $9000 eight years ago. As TV's go $1000 a year is not a very good payback if I were to replace it now.

Frank

[MrBoylan]

Thanks Chris,

You've cleared up a lot of information for me. I believe my Niveus is currently outputing a 720P signal but is capable of 1080i as well. I'm working with them to find the Intel TV setup wizard that would address this. I'll keep the forum posted in case there are others with this relic. I hate to replace it because one, at 65", it still has an awsome HD picture and two, it cost $9000 eight years ago. As TV's go $1000 a year is not a very good payback if I were to replace it now.

Frank

Hi, Frank,

Yeah, I know there are still owners who swear by the 710HD and frankly, CRT projection systems can produce an image that is superior in many ways to most if not all of today's digital flat panel sets. Apparently there are all manner of tweaks that ISF calibrators can do to this set in order to squeeze every last drop of performance out of the picture, so you might want to consider getting it ISF calibrated. After 8 years, you could have a significant about of dust accumulation on the CRT lenses which would soften the image. Even just simply removing the screen and very carefully dusting the lenses would help, but ISF calibrators can correct the overscan, dial in the grey scale and convergence to perfection and tweak the color accuracy and contrast. If you've got the space for it, and don't mind the occasional "tune up" which CRT products need, then really you may as well hold onto it while its picture holds up and while flat panel technologies continue to improve and get cheaper.

Getting High Def sources connected to it can be a challenge though, so hopefully you can find someone who is more familiar with the set than anyone here.

Good luck!

-Chris

[azfrankp]

Hi, Frank,

Yeah, I know there are still owners who swear by the 710HD and frankly, CRT projection systems can produce an image that is superior in many ways to most if not all of today's digital flat panel sets. Apparently there are all manner of tweaks that ISF calibrators can do to this set in order to squeeze every last drop of performance out of the picture, so you might want to consider getting it ISF calibrated. After 8 years, you could have a significant about of dust accumulation on the CRT lenses which would soften the image.

-Chris

Yup! Just had it done as I do every 2 or 3 years. It's the best $400 spent. that's why the picture still looks great with no signs of CRT degradation. Convergence is perfect. The guy that does it for me is an old Pioneer technician that was layed off years ago because he was too picky and wasn't fast enough.